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News: Denmark beat Netherlands A

Well well….. this is a surprise. And they won quite comfortably too, with 7 overs to spare and by 8 wickets.

I didnt realize that Klokker would make it to the Denmark team, but he did and ended up scoring a century. For the dutch, Buurman scored a 75, which once again would get the dutch coach thinking about how much Jerome Smits, they national keeper, is important instead of Buurman.

Nonetheless, it looks like Denmark should just play Netherlands too, becuase they are too strong for the Dutch A side. In fact, Kopperholdt was not playing for Denmark, who is their best bowler, so this was not the full Danish team either.

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  1. Ram
    June 9, 2006 at 10:38 am

    Oh ho ho!…Denmark’ve literally thrashed the Dutch A side. This result along with the Uganda-Kenya A result makes me wonder whether these 2nd rung Associates have made some real progress or is it just that the top Associates are putting up better results in tournaments that matter like the ICC trophy solely because of their greater experience!?

    We may not know the answer to these questions until these Associates get to play more cricket. All the more the ICC should look at the Intercontinental Cup being more accessible to the 2nd rung Associates.

  2. Cuen Lucas
    June 9, 2006 at 11:32 am

    It even more impressive considering that the Netherlands A side fielded Victor Grandia, Adeel Raja, and Sebastiaan Gokke in their bowling lineup, so it was good work by the Danes to come out on tp with only 2 down and 7 overs still in the bank.

    As for the Smits/Buurman battle, I’d be tempted to take both with Buurman playing as a specialist batsman, because in the 2003 World Cup, the Dutch top order had a hard time and Smits often came in and batted well with the tail enders. So it might not hurt to look at that option.

  3. June 9, 2006 at 2:22 pm

    Ram, OR the third reason can be that the top associates have gotten worse 🙂 Lets wait till tommorrow to see the result of the full national teams matchup.

    Cuen, Smits only batted out the overs in the last world cup, preventing Netherlands from getting bowled out. He never really did anything else with the bat but block. I mean, there is a reason why he was coming down at number 10. Netherlands will have some better batsmen this time around than last time. They will have ten Doesche, Kervezee, Buurman and even Zuiderant now has good county experience in the last 4 years. So I dont think blocking tactics of Smits are going to be needed. Plus Smits is 35-36 years old, it is time for him to retire.

  4. Ram
    June 9, 2006 at 3:14 pm

    Nasir…yes, it’s quite possible that Kenya and Netherlands may’ve got worse given that they don’t seem to have man-to-man replacements for Tikolos or Odumbes or Zuiderents or de-Leedes. In that case, why shouldn’t countries like Denmark or Uganda get to play the Intercontinental Cup if they’re almost on par with these top Associates?!

    A better way to judge the quality of cricket in these countries is to organize the Intercontinental Cup (apart from the one for the senior teams) at the U-19 as well as U-15 levels involving maybe 12-14 teams instead of 8. Let the Intercontinental Cup at the senior level be limited to 8 teams (with scope for promotion and relegation for 2 teams) to maintain the competition’s high standards that are expected of teams just below the Test level.

  5. June 9, 2006 at 4:35 pm


    ICC refuses to subjectively put teams in the intercontinental cup. Hence you will generally have expat teams, or very tiny countries, over Uganda, Denmark, Nepal, Afghanistan etc. For example, Canada, Bermuda, UAE, Oman etc.

    It will only be after a while that the system in the ‘real’ associates becomes strong enough that they will start beating out the expat based teams. Netherlands and Denmark have the system and facilities in place, but not the numbers. Afghanistan, Nepal have the numbers but not the system or facilities. Uganda has the system AND numbers, but not the facilties. Bermuda has everything in place, but despite being cricket crazy the country has only 2000 players (thats half of Holland where people on the street can’t tell a cricket bat from baseball bat), because the overall population is very low.

    In any case, the ICC has mentioned that they will start a second division of intercontinental cup after a while if the funds allow it. That would have relegation and promotion.

    I would have liked the ICC to make the intercontinental a full tour, including 1 4 day match and 3 One day matches (ODIs in case of the top six). And I mentioned in a post a long time back that the current 8 should be expanded to 10 to include Denmark and Uganda. Ideally, I would have liked Canada, UAE and Bermuda out of the intercontinental cup as well to include Malaysia, Nepal and Afghanistan, but I guess the ICC has to be objective about the whole thing.

    Regarding your other point, Netherlands has done pretty well in finding replacement players. Kervezee, Buurman, Van Bunge, ten Doetche, Seelar etc. are all very young. Even Zuiderant is only 29 so still has a minimum of 6 years to go. Schifferli is 30.

  6. Ram
    June 9, 2006 at 8:09 pm

    Nasir..Why I’m for restricting the Intercontinental Cup to 8 teams is because I believe teams like UAE, Bermuda and Canada may be too weak compared to the other Associates like Denmark or Uganda who can take their righful place in the Intercontinental Cup instead. Also, I feel Nepal, Malaysia and Afghanistan may be a little bit short on experience and class at the moment which could come in the way of the competitive nature of the competition. Maybe, after 2-3 years experience, countries like Nepal and Afghanistan can be added.

    Btw, which of the Associates do you think is next in line to become a Test nation and when do you think they should be given Test status?

  7. June 9, 2006 at 11:11 pm

    Ram, I think in the ICC Trophy 2005, less than a year ago, Bermuda beat Denmark by 100 runs, and also beat Uganda quite comfortably. And UAE beat these countries as well, perhaps with a washout here and there. We cannot know how much these teams have imporved until there is a competition between Denmark, Canada, Bermuda and Uganda today. Perhpas also Nepal, since they found some really good players in the U19 WC this year.

  8. Ram
    June 10, 2006 at 3:56 am

    Nasir, The problem at the Associate level is that teams with international experience almost always prevail over those without exposure even if they’re the less talented. That’s why the ICC must look to provide equal oppurtunity for these Associates to develop.

    It is interesting to note that the one dayer between Holland and Denmark has the aid of 3rd umpire which is highly surprising given that even Zimbabwe and Kenya played out their recent 5-ODI series in the absence of TV replays!

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