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News: Afghanistan beat Leicestershire 2nd XI

I was unable to find the scorecard, but the Afghan victory has been confirmed. Afghanistan has managed to win both of their games against second XI opposition by a whisker, but the point is that they won, whereas you have other teams like Bermuda that get thrashed by second XI teams. But I still dont know how Afghanistan ranks with the big associates. We may be stepping out of the box here in saying that they are much better than Scotland, Holland or Ireland, Kenya. But I guess we will never know because there is nothing that is going to be done by the ICC to better benchmark the teams. All that the ICC is likely to do for their grand expansion of cricket is to give more and more assistence to Bermuda !

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  1. Ram
    June 22, 2006 at 10:35 am

    Yes, that’s why I feel the two countries Afghanistan and Nepal are being marginalized at the expense of countries like Bermuda and Canada who clearly aren’t going anywhere in the next 5 years or so! Am sure these 2 countries would be as competitve as Canada or Bermuda and should be playing in the Intercontinental Cup along with Denmark either at the expense of Bermuda, Canada or Namibia or in addition to these countries.

    Though if not right now, am sure given the right exposure, these two countries can become as competitive as the top 4 Associates over the next couple of years or so..

  2. Bensti
    June 22, 2006 at 9:29 pm

    But there is a system in place.
    Afghanistan had their chance to make it through to the 2005 ICC Trophy via the Asia Championships or the 2005 WCQS 2nd division.
    UAE, Oman, Nepal, Kuwait and Qatar finished above Afghanistan at the 2005 Asia Championships.
    Nepal, Kuwait and Qatar then played off at the WCQS Div 2 and could not finish in the top 2.
    Fiji and Papua New Guinea finished above them.
    In 2006 Afghanistan get another chance. If they are good enough they will make it through.
    By the way I wouldn’t be writing off Canada, either from a development point of view or because of those two poor matches against Zimbabwe and Bermuda.
    Once they get their best 11 players together they will win plenty of games.
    From a developmental point of view, Canada has some fairly strong junior systems in place in Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Manitoba and Alberta that place an emphasis on attracting born and bred players.
    Thats not to say that more couldn’t be done. Of course it could but Canada is definately on the right track and one of the associates with the potential to beat full nations in the future.

  3. June 23, 2006 at 4:12 am

    Bensti,

    I would actually write off Canada pretty quickly.

    Artificially raising the standard of their team by getting imports from Australia and New Zealand is not something that they can sustain. Secondly, 99% of their junior players are south asian, so I dont know if the CCA is doing something, or if cricket crazy kids are coming to them themselves. In any case, once again, if the kids are any good, they will try to go and play cricket in India or Pakistan, becuase there is an easy future for them over there, instead of roughing it out as an amateur in Canada.

    Plus their cricket economy is expat based. That is only good for holding India v West Indies friendship matches. I will give myself sometime to see how many people come to see the Kenya, Canada and Bermuda triangualr series to back Canada in August.

    Finally, they cant even get their team together to practice. Other countries too have this problem, but if you have a proper system, and you are setting out players from a centralized point, then at least majority of the best players are still in close proximity to each other. When you have no system, like Canada, and are only tapping on expat sunday league talent, then you will end up with the best players scatterred all over the country.

  4. Ram
    June 23, 2006 at 9:49 am

    The performance by Afghanistan on their England tour, especially against county 2nd XI teams makes me wonder if the following teams of similar standard should get to play as much as possible against each other..

    Afghanistan, Denmark, Uganda, Nepal, UAE, Namibia, Bermuda, Canada, Zim A.

    A round-robin tournament between these 9 teams can be held and the top 5 countries (excluding Zim A) be allowed to take part in the Intercontinental Cup (spanning 2 years, starting from 2007 onwards) along with Kenya, Scotland, Ireland, Netherlands and Zimbabwe, who by the way shouldn’t be playing Test cricket..

    These 5 teams should also look to play Ban A apart from their Intercontinental Cup matches. The 3 lowest ranked countries from the above tournament should be joined by Cayman Islands, PNG, USA and probably Argentina and Italy..

  5. Bensti
    June 23, 2006 at 10:03 am

    No Nasir 99% of their junior players are not South Asian.

    You really need to research your topic.

    A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing obviously.

    Do the research, look a little bit deeper.

    Have a look at the development programs in Alberta, BC and Manitoba.

    Or maybe just make up stuff as you go mate!

  6. Bensti
    June 23, 2006 at 10:22 am

    Ok delete my last post.

    I shouldn’t get so uptight about such things.

    Cheers

    But give the Canadians a chance Nasir!

    See what is going on in the provinces!

  7. June 23, 2006 at 10:37 am

    Bensti,

    Show me a link where there is development program (provinces or schools) going on and the juniors are not primarily South Asian. They may still be expats from Australia or South Africa, but we wont be able to tell the difference through their names so lets limit ourselves to South Asian expats.

  8. Bensti
    June 23, 2006 at 10:37 pm

    Nasir I’ve spoken personally to people in Alberta, BC and Ontario who are involved in junior development programs.
    Its the only way to get the clear picture.
    There probably isn’t a website but that doesn’t mean that nothing is happening.
    Its pretty unfair to just say 99% of Canadian cricketers are South Asian.
    Its just plain wrong.
    There are born and bred Canadians playing in the Victoria & District competition, in the BCMCL, the Manitoba competition and a few in Ontario as well. In Calgary there is a new schools cricket program that aims to include all Canadians and from what I can tell has made some good early progress.
    There are also a large number of West Indian heritage players, particularly in the T&D competition.
    Many of these players are 3rd and 4th generation Canadians. Hardly ex-pats.
    It shoud be noted that Canada did hold an inter-provincial tournament in 2005 and it is hoped that this will become an annual event so the talent can be brought together and trialed.
    If in doubt why not e-mail the provincial organizations and find out more.

  9. June 23, 2006 at 11:30 pm

    Bensti,

    Lets wait and see what sort of crowd shows up to back Canada v Kenya/Bermuda in August.

  10. edrees
    August 11, 2006 at 10:22 pm

    Inshallah soon afghanistan will make it to top level cricket. ALLAH knows best.
    but inshallah wen we get der, watch OUT.
    BYEEE

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