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News: Netherlands A lose to MCC

MCC scored 324, and then restricted Net A to 251, winning the game by 73 runs. As I had mentioned, Netherlands tries all 4 of their reserve seamers, because of Schiferli’s injury. Grandia went for 50 in 4 overs!, Ernst Van Giezen went for 36 in 4 overs. Mark Jonkman bowled pretty well for figures of 10-0-51-3, while Gokke for some reason did not complete his 10 overs, and ended up with figures of 5-0-25-1. I think both Gokke and Jonkman may end up playing for the full Netherlands team against MCC and also against Srilanka. In batting, Eric Schwarzinski, who is already in my ideal Netherlands team as an opener, scored 101* (142 balls, 7 4s, 1 6s), while Peter Borren made 85 (78 balls, 9 4s, 2 6s) and Kervezee, who is carrying an injury, made 34 (64 balls, 2 4s 0 6s).

The thing with Kervezee is that even if he scores 30 runs, it is a big deal, because the guy is only 16 years old. Atse Buurman failed, but that is ok because he has proven himself on quite a few occasions against top quality bowling earlier in the year. The good thing about Schwarzinski’s batting was that he batted with immense concentration for 3 hours and 2 minutes, carrying his bat throughout the innings. This experience must have given him tremendous confidence, and also improved his batting skill.

Netherlands main problem is with their bowling. They need to find wicket taking pace bowlers.

On the MCC side, Afghanistan’s Hamid Hassan, who was MCCs opening bowler, ended up with figures of 7-0-40-4, while Mohammed Nabi scored 37 (24 balls, 1 4s, 3 6s). Perhaps the Dutch will give these two guys a go as coaches for the next Hoofdklasse season.

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  1. Cuen Lucas
    June 27, 2006 at 12:58 pm

    The one thing that struck me was just how thin that Netherlands A batting lineup was, you had Grandia and Raja coming in at 6 and 7 respectively, so if they were to win, their bowling needed to be strong.
    I agree about the pace attack, a solution needs to be found soon, Grandia has the pace, but clearly has a lot of work to do.
    Great innings by Szwarczynski and a good all round performance by Borren, he was expensive when he bowled but also picked up 3 wickets,plus that good effort by Jonkman. So even though the Dutch lost, it’s good to see so many positives coming out of the game.

  2. June 27, 2006 at 1:44 pm

    Netherlands full side batting order is pretty much settled, and the only questions that remained were who would replace Schiferli, and who from Raja or Seelar will play. I guess thats why they ended up going into the match with 6 full bowlers. And with De Grooth and Buurman going after playing a couple of balls, it effectively left them with only 3 batsmen, who did a decent job.

    However, at some point in time, associates need to stop taking ‘positives’ from every game and start winning.

    Netherlands will have to make the decision regarding Smits as well. It is high time that Buurman takes the gloves, and Smits takes a break. Otherwise, its a batting slot that goes to waste.

  3. Cuen Lucas
    June 27, 2006 at 2:22 pm

    Nasir, I think that the associates will only be able to start focusing on winning instead of simply looking on taking positives once they get some more regular ODI competition against the worlds best, where they can implement and improve those positives.

  4. Bensti
    June 27, 2006 at 9:22 pm

    I agree with you Nasir about Jeroen Smits.
    Wicketkeepers must bat and Atse Buurman does.
    The same situation applies to Luuk van Troost, who hasn’t scored a limited overs 50 against a full international side since 2004. According to my figures that was 12 innings ago when he scored 58 v Scotland in the ICC six nations tournament. He has been in good form for Holland in first class matches however.
    I think Peter Borren must be given an extended opportunity in the full side.
    Somehow, I dont see Holland dropping the Captain and vice-captain before the World Cup.
    As for the bowling. Its still too early to pencil in a name.
    Ernst van Giezen bowled well against India ‘A’ taking 10-0-3-48 and Sri Lanka ‘A’ taking 10-0-2-57, so he has performed well against quality opposition recently.
    Mark Jonkman has stepped up over the last couple of days as a late contender.
    Where is Billy Stelling? He hasn’t played since the Inter-continental cup match against Kenya.
    I’m leaving the door open in regard to the bowling. There is still time.

  5. June 28, 2006 at 5:49 am

    Stelling? Injured or too old perhaps to play πŸ™‚
    They didnt really need him if Schiferli was fit. Even at the momment, I think they are ok without him. They should try Jonkman and Gokke for the MCC match. Hopefully Ten Doeschate will be released for the Sri lanka games and would be able to bowl his medium pacers.

    The Dutch are not going to drop Smits or Van Troost. But at least unlike Kenya, their 35y+ veterans are a liability on the team instead of being the only match makers.

  6. Cuen Lucas
    June 28, 2006 at 7:16 am

    Stelling’s 36, so Nasir’s second answer could well be right, BUT considering the Netherland’s pace drought, he may still be in the picture reagrdless of his age, so it could be an injury that’s keeping him out.
    I’m not so sure about the Netherlands being okay without him, as I said in a previous post, fast bowlers need to work in a partnership and the KNCB need to find someone to partner Schiferli when he comes back.

  7. June 28, 2006 at 9:23 am

    All of Luk Van Troost, Tim De Leede, Stelling, Smits and Reekers are over at least 34 years of age. But the good thing is that most of them are a liability, except for De Leede who is still a match winner for the Dutch. Reekers is pretty good too, but he has never really done anything to contribute to a Dutch success.

    Dutch need to have at least 30 games in their calender, with at least 15-20 of them being ODIs in a year (Sept-Apr). Thats the only way they will get sponsorships, thats the only way they will hold interest amongst the followers in that country, and thats the only way they will get their players a regular workout, and thats the only way they can expect to get people to show up for matches and back the team. The absence of a ‘season’ is a big problem for them, and also for Scotland and Ireland.

  8. Bensti
    June 28, 2006 at 9:55 am

    Cuen is spot on.
    Holland have the weakest ‘pace’ attack of the six associates.
    Schiferli is an honest tryer and a good wicket taker but in truth he only bowls at around 125-130kph. Under normal circumstances, he would be a first change or into the wind bowler.
    It is vital that the Dutch find another medium pacer, preferably one who can bowl at around 135-140kph.
    Reekers is just medium pace.
    de Leede bowls at 100-110kph.
    ten Doeschate is steady but not quick.
    Stelling had an outsanding 2005 ICC Trophy and is very accurate.
    On the other hand, the Dutch batting is looking very good at the moment and you would expect it to get stronger in the next 6-12 months.

  9. Cuen Lucas
    June 28, 2006 at 11:49 am

    Nasir, I absolutely agree about the associates not being able to get enough games in and this is how I see the problem:
    After the ICC trophy, the associate nations are having to scramble to try fit in games wherever they can, in an already packed international schedule.

    My solution would be that the ICC has got to look at returning to a permanent ODI status system so the countries that have earned the status can at least go about arranging proper tours, tournaments and series as opposed to trying to slot in a game here and there for four years then having to wait for the ICC trophy to finish before starting again.
    Sure Scotland did manage to get themselves into a triangular, but the boards of the top associates really need to be able to plan ahead if they are to make full use of an ODI status.

  10. June 28, 2006 at 1:44 pm

    Only Scotland, Netherlands and Ireland look like they can get permanent ODI status. Kenya has nothing in their youth teams. Bermuda and Canada are lousy teams, and should not even have had temporary ODI status. Nepal can probably get ODI status on youth standard, depite their low ranking, their U19 team is just too strong, and the lack of a proper calender manages to hold their national team back. Afghanistan can probably get ODI status on senior team standard, but I keep on mentioning that they have bigger problems to worry about rather than cricket, and in any case, they dont have any infrastructure (cricket or otherwise).

    Why Scotland, Ireland, Netherlands dont try to get a series with Zimbabwe or Bangaldesh or Kenya baffles me. The thing is that Zim, Bang and Ken are professional teams that dont have a problem of getting time off from work to go on a tour. The top associates should try to invite them, and try to make a sell on the match, becuase it is will be a close one. Now if someone says that people in Scotland will not come out to watch Scotland play Bangladesh, becuase they think Bangladesh is too weak, thats a different problem, and a weird one.

  11. Ram
    June 28, 2006 at 2:19 pm

    Yes, I agree with Cuen that the ICC should definitely look at the permanent ODI status scenario because I do believe that the 3 European nations deserve such a status so that they can get regular fixtures going against the Test teams, rather than the one-off ODI, and so can look to earn more from these games, which can be used to professionalize the system in these countries! The current scenario of scrambling for fixtures will have no long range, large scale impact on the public and can only bring in short-term benefits!!

  12. June 28, 2006 at 4:18 pm

    Regarding Dutch pace attack being the weakest, typically if your batsmen are good, then there should be some bowlers who are good as well. I mean, they all play in the Hoofdklasse and need to survive. How can is it that the bowlers are poor-below average but the batsmen are above average-good?

  13. Ram
    June 28, 2006 at 4:23 pm


    Netherlands is probably another India in the making, much stronger in batting than bowling… πŸ™‚

  14. June 28, 2006 at 11:48 pm

    I think for permanent ODI or Permanent Test status, the ICC will look at not only the national team, but also the A team, and also the U19 team. Perhaps even U15 team stadards. At these age levels only Ireland and Nepal match up (I feel Afghanistan may match up as well if given a chance). Scootland looked out of sorts at the U19 level, and Netherlands did not even qualify for the WC.

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