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News: Argentina annouce squad for Americas Div 1 tour

Argentina’s squad for the August tour is:

1. Gaston Arizaga
2. Alejandro Ferguson
3. Paul Ferguson
4. Donny Forrester
5. Charles Gibson
6. Bernardo Irigoyen
7. Diego Lord
8. Billy MacDermott (Captain)
9. Steven Nino
10. Lucas Paterlini
11. Matias Paterlini
12. Hernan Pereyra
13. Paul Ryan
14. Gary Savage
15. Agustin Casime
16. Hernan Williams

Martin Siri, who is one of their top players, and Andy Perez Rivero, both made themselves unavailable due to work commitments. Siri’s exclusion will probably be a big blow to the Argentinian cause, as it is imperative that they beat Cayman Islands to qualify for WCQS Div III, and get a ranking in the top 30 cricket countries of the world.

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  1. Cuen Lucas
    June 28, 2006 at 12:01 pm

    A good mix of youth and experience in that team, and certainly a talented and capable looking squad. Good luck to them.

  2. Ram
    June 28, 2006 at 1:05 pm

    Nasir..A look at the team shows that the number of indigenous players in the national team is really high which is very good for Argentinian cricket though a look at their U-15 or U-19 teams would give us a better indication!

    But, I thought both Cayman Islands and Argentina were anyway among the top 30 cricket nations in the World..I think the problem here, like in soccer, is in having a certain number of teams from each region taking part in the World Cup qualifiers, rather than the best teams world over taking part..I mean if we were to rank the top 30 cricketing countries, I’m fairly sure Argentina would find a place but they would now struggle to enter the WCQS Div III because they’ll have to beat a much stronger Cayman Islands while say, an EAP region with lesser teams may end up sending teams like Fiji or PNG who are maybe on par or even poorer than Argentina!!

    Also, I don’t get the significance of the ICC ranking the top 30 countries given that only the top 18 outside of the Test world get to play in the 3 divisions of the WCQS, it should rather be 11-28!!…The ICC can also look to rank the teams from 29-50 because some of them with a higher number of indigenous players may have greater potential than teams like say Canada or Oman which are mostly made of expats!!

  3. June 28, 2006 at 1:34 pm

    Ram,

    1) PNG and Fiji are much stronger than Argentina. Cayman Islands thrashed Argentina, then went to the WCQS III, and lost out to both Fiji and PNG, and even to Kuwait, Nepal and Qatar etc.

    2) I have a posting somewhere on this blog about Argentina U15 and U13 squads. Even the English sounding names in the full senior team, most of them anyway, are Argenintian born, like Billy McDermott for example.

    3) ICC released the ranking last year. It is a pointless exercise because a) its not an updated one, and b) because nothing happens due to it. But the ranking was for 30 countries. It was the 11 teams in the ICC trophy, 8 teams in the WCQS qualifier, and Kenya. I guess from next year ICC will be releasing rankings from 1-28.

    At least what should have been done was that the rankings update after international games. Like the recent Denmark and Holland game should have had some significance on the ranking. Additionally, the ICC could have incorporated A teams in the rankings as well, because all countries tend to play A team games and the associates at times get more games against A teams rather than full teams. ICC could have maintained 2 rankings, and updated them (believe me, its only 1 ranking, for the other you just have to kick out the A teams from the list)

  4. Ram
    June 28, 2006 at 2:01 pm

    Nasir..

    1) ok..PNG and Fiji may be much stronger than Argentina now but what if in the next couple of years or so, it turns out to be otherwise??..The point here I was trying to stress was not about PNG or Fiji or Argentina but about how the regional qualification system can hamper the best teams from playing against each other!

    2) Good!..Actually, I indeed thought that their captain McDermott might be a British or Australian expat!

    3) Yes, I agree that all one-day matches involving the Associates, official or otherwise, should have a bearing on the rankings…Btw, Do the recent ODIs involving Ireland and Scotland and the ones in future involving Netherlands count in the ICC ODI championship table in any way?..It would be silly if a team like Pakistan or India loses a few places in the ODI table because of losing to a team like WI or Bangladesh but wouldn’t be affected if they lost to similar/weaker teams like Scotland or Ireland!

  5. June 28, 2006 at 2:12 pm

    Ram,

    In order for any of the new associates to get into the rankings table, they need to have 2 victories in the last 3 years against a team ALREADY in the table, and also should have played a minimum of 8 ODIs in the last 3 years. Currently only Kenya managed that, because they played 4 ODIs against Zim, and another 4 against Bangladesh, and managed to win 2 games against Zim. So they got into the table. Now the other associates need to have at least 2 victories against the team ALREADY in the table (this includes Kenya now) and play at least 8 ODIs to get into the table.

    This is precisely why I dont get why Scotland, Ireland and Netherlands dont schedule something with Kenya, Bangladesh or Zimbabwe on their own. Its the best way for them to get into the ODI table.

  6. Ram
    June 28, 2006 at 2:32 pm

    Nasir..

    After reading your explanation for getting into the ICC ODI Championship table, it really baffles me as to why the fixtures you mentioned don’t go ahead though I believe Kenya are scheduled to host a 5 ODI series against Scotland in early Jan 2007..

    Could it be possible that financial constraints are preventing Scotland, Ireland and Netherlands from scheduling ODIs against Kenya, Ban or Zim??..

    OR, Could it also be possible that countries like Bangladesh, Zim and Kenya are refusing to play against them for the fear of being defeated and the entire cricketing world again raising the chorus about the Test or ODI status of these 3 countries??…

  7. June 28, 2006 at 2:44 pm

    I would say its financial constraints for the 4 associates.

    Bangladesh and Zimbabwe may have the second reason you mentioned as well, but hey, we cant keep on living in a dreamworld. If they are stronger than Ireland, Scotland and Holland, they need not worry. If they are weaker, they need to know and fix the problem.

    Personally, I dont think that Bangladesh and Zim are stronger than Ireland, Netherlands or Scotland. Especially Scotland, who I think will beat Bangladesh fairly easily, esp at home.

  8. Ram
    June 28, 2006 at 3:04 pm

    Nasir..

    Yes, The whole mess about the ICC ODI Championship table is because of the lack of proper fixtures involving the lower Test teams and the Associates…I don’t see the logic of Bermuda and Canada getting to play a triseries with Netherlands, Zim or Scotland as the 3rd team! It’s strange that not a single tournament involving Bangladesh and Zim with Scotland, Ireland and/or Netherlands forms a part of the ICC’s fixtures for the Associate nations in their build-up to the World Cup 2007..

  9. tieho matsoso
    September 22, 2006 at 5:38 am

    hey Nasir, my name is tieho, a young south african student whose has played cricket through-out my life and ill love to find out more about the game in argentina as i have travelled there twice on holiday and a plan on traveling there again jan. 2007, and i would like to know where i can enjoy the game in argentina and play whilst im there?

  10. September 22, 2006 at 3:11 pm

    Matsoso,

    Try http://www.cricketargentina.com and send them an email to ask around…… you can probably get the addresses of the clubs from that site, so that may help…… but dont expect the common man in Buenos Aires to be able to point out the cricket clubs to you…… or for that matter, tell you what cricket is, apart from an insect……

  11. Hewer
    May 24, 2007 at 6:36 pm

    Hello all,

    Apparently less than 2% of registered players in Argentina are expats, at least according to Wikipedia anyway.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_cricket_team

    I see that Argentina were touched up nicely by the Caymans in their warm up match yesterday. Clearly a class below PNG.

    Any tips for WCL Div 3?

    Hewer

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