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News: Kenya postpone Bangladesh ODI series…

Has any good news come out of Kenya cricket in the last 3 years? Now they have postponed their series against Bangladesh because of the lack of sponsors. So much for public interest. They say they need $176K to host the series, half of the amount coming from TV rights. So I guess they are unable to come up with the $86K or so in sponsorship.

They state that they have postponed it by 3 weeks, and are hopeful that a deal will be struck. I guess that means that Bangladesh is first going to tour Zim, and if possible, then tour Kenya afterwards for the ODIs. Bangladesh seems to be still coming to Kenya at the same time though to warm up and practise.

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  1. Ram
    July 10, 2006 at 2:40 pm

    Well…this definitely doesn’t bode well for Kenyan cricket, especially with their fellow Associates playing so much cricket ahead of the World Cup while they struggle thanks to financial reasons..Btw, why weren’t Kenya given ODIs against India and/or Pakistan (who are supposed to tour SA later this year) so that they can make money similar to Scotland, Ireland or the Dutch?..And, how come such a huge cricket market in Bangladesh is worth so little in TV rights that despite the TV rights, Cricket Kenya still don’t have enough money to even organize the tour, let alone make profits?

  2. July 10, 2006 at 3:21 pm

    I dont understand what actually happenned here, given that Kenya was actually able to host a lot of ODIs in the past.

    Secondly, if I look at Netherlands, they were able to get good sponsors, despite only 1000 people showing up at the match. Kenya can get about 10K people showing up in the match, but still no sponsors? Its strange.

    But you are right that surely, the Bangldesh TV rights are worth more than $86K. They should be over the half a million mark even on a pessimistic scale. Kenya should have been able to make a huge profit in that way.

  3. Ram
    July 10, 2006 at 8:54 pm

    What are the odds that Bangladesh’s tour of Zimbabwe would not follow a similar fate given that the Zimbabwean board isn’t financially much better off?..Of course, Ban A are currently on tour playing Zim A indicating that if they can host Ban A, they must probably be able to host Ban in a 5 ODI series without too much difficulty.

    Nick has written in his blog that Cricket Kenya are, it seems, on the verge of signing a major sponsor, one that should go a long way in making sure this tour does see the light of day.

  4. July 10, 2006 at 9:18 pm

    Given the ICC grants, Zim can go ahead with hosting Bangladesh without any sponsors……

  5. July 10, 2006 at 11:22 pm

    ICC should take note of this pathetic situation though….. the tour has been in place for over 6 weeks now……. and NOW KCA is saying that they have to postpone this tour because of the lack of sponsors? They should have had an idea of the sponsors, some informal meetings, some idea of the situation BEFORE even asking Bangladesh to tour them.

    Snail paced ICC also needs to wake up and take note of the fact that neither the Kenya national team, nor their board, is a top associate anymore. ICC should stop unnecessarily pushing Kenya and putting pressure on them to host a test nation when they obviously can’t.

    And in any case, KCA has refused to select Otieno, Suji is injured, Tikolo is in playing in England. So out of the top 4-5 players, 3-4 are missing. Kenya A members are always there, but playing them is only going to make Danish club players happy.

  6. Ram
    July 11, 2006 at 2:41 pm

    Nasir..

    I wonder why the ICC should stop pushing Kenya into hosting a Test team when their fellow Associates can get their share of ODIs that helps their national board raise some much-needed money for the game’s development in the country?…I feel Kenya should’ve been given a 3-ODI series against India or Pakistan later this year so that their board could’ve made some money, which they so desperately need!..Also, I must add that with Kenya enjoying a much higher profile in the Test nations thanks to their World Cup performances, their TV rights would be worth much more than what a 3-ODI series against Scotland or Ireland is worth of!

  7. July 11, 2006 at 4:44 pm

    I can tell you at least from Pakistan’s perspective, that the series against Kenya, Scotland or Ireland would all be of same value.

    Only until an associate team consistently beats or keeps running the test team close will the image of that country, and subsequently the sponsors, will improve.

    ICC gives Kenya games against Bangladesh so that Kenya can raise the money through their OWN sponsors, for their OWN team. Kenya-Bangladesh matches are more likely to be closer, or are more likely to result in Kenyan victory than Kenya-India matches, so it is only logical that Kenyan supporters follow these games, and only logical that sponsors back these games.

    Netherlands, Ireland and Scotland all raised sponsorship money through their OWN resources. Kenya should be doing the same. If they cant, then the ICC should not be pushing them to host these games.

  8. Ram
    July 11, 2006 at 5:07 pm

    Nasir..

    Expecting Kenya to make money by hosting Bangladesh while the European Associates get to host much bigger teams like Eng, Pak or SL is I think a bit unfair, given Kenya’s much smaller economy compared to these Associates…My question is: How can we be sure that Kenya can’t make money from a game against India/Pakistan?..If sponsors will back a series in which the host team is more likely to win, then Scotland, Ireland or Netherlands should be looking to host each other, apart from Bangladesh or Zimbabwe rather than Test teams..But that doesn’t clearly seem to be the case..I don’t think an ODI against Bangladesh will attract more sponsors than an ODI against a high-profile Test team.

  9. Ram
    July 11, 2006 at 5:32 pm

    Now..it seems that the ODI series has been re-scheduled..if one were to believe the BBC..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/other_international/bangladesh/5166164.stm

    I wonder how Kenya are going to play the two ODIs against Bermuda on Aug 9th and 10th..maybe an oppurtunity for Kenya A to play in the name of Kenya..Who knows?..For the first time in sporting history, Kenya may be playing 2 ODIs in different venues on the same day 🙂

  10. July 11, 2006 at 7:39 pm

    I think the Canada series will be cancelled if it clashes with Bang-Ken series, or the Canada series will become a bilateral series against Bermuda……. because the ICC gives preference to the games between a test team and an associate team.

    Since this is the second time Kenya has done this (they managed to get all their ODIs against Holland cancelled to play Bangaldesh) in the span of 4 months….. I dont think you can blame me for being skeptical about Kenya’s desire to play against supposedly ‘weaker’ ODI nations. But I guess if you are getting games against stronger opposition, then why not.

    Well, still a month to go, so I think the ICC can still try and get somone to Canada to play that triangular …… I think Zimbabwe would be free, and wouldnt mind thrashing Bermuda and Canada one more time.

  11. Ram
    July 11, 2006 at 7:52 pm

    Nasir,

    Will Denmark, instead of Zim get to replace Kenya in the triangular with Canada and Bermuda?..I think a triseries involving these three teams will give a good idea of how good Denmark really are. It may not be an official ODI but who cares, given that not many would anyway turnup in Canada to watch these matches and it’s the ICC that’ll anyway endup spending money on organizing these tournaments?

  12. July 11, 2006 at 8:26 pm

    There is no way Denmark is going to be called by the ICC to fillup…… Namibia and UAE are standing in line first…….. but ICC will WANT it to be an official ODI series, so I think either it will be a bilateral series, or Zimbabwe will be called up.

  13. Ram
    July 11, 2006 at 9:17 pm

    Yes, maybe Namibia but not sure about UAE though since they will be involved in the ACC trophy then…that makes me ask the question if a series involving Canada, Bermuda, Denmark, UAE, Namibia, Afghanistan and Nepal in UAE should help figure out how these teams stackup against each other…Financially, it shouldn’t be a problem for the UAE to host such an event, so the ICC can be spared of the burden..

  14. July 12, 2006 at 3:01 pm

    Yeah, but I dont think such a tournament is ever going to take place, unless Denmark or Nepal take the initiative …… the other teams would not want to play and find out that the other teams are stronger than them…..

    The closest you would get to such a tournament is the WCQS Div II in 2008 (yeah, wait till then :))….. that would feature Oman, Denmark, Namibia, UAE and the 2 qualifiers from WCQS Div III 2007 (Probably Uganda plus 1 more team, possibly Afghanistan or Nepal if they make it past UAE in the ACC Trophy).

    Denmark should however, host Bermuda for a 3-5 match series, they can make Bermuda play 1 game against Denmark A and 1 against Denmark U23 as warm up, and 3 50 over games with the national team. They should have done this when Bermuda were touring England. But I guess Denmark can play a better team in Holland, and its much less costly and much closer.

  15. Ram
    July 12, 2006 at 4:04 pm

    Rather than Bermuda, I would like Denmark to host Afghanistan/Nepal in a 3-5 match series..this should give a good idea of how much Afghanistan/Nepal have progressed in the last couple of years and maybe how much Denmark have degraded in that time..Denmark hosting Afghanistan/Nepal can atleast hope to bring in some spectators or media following as against hosting Dutch A or Kenya A sides which are unlikely to get any attention in Denmark whatsoever..

  16. July 12, 2006 at 4:43 pm

    I think the value for Denmark in hosting Bermuda or Canada would be to show themselves, and also the cricketing world about how much they have improved. Why would they want to host Nepal or Afghanistan? If they win, there is no point proven for them because they would be expected to win anyway; if they lose, or get a run for their money, it would be about how much they have declined in standard.

    So I dont think it would be an intelligent move by them to host Nepal or Afghanistan. Nepal can however try to host them. There would be some value in the money spent there.

  17. Ram
    July 12, 2006 at 6:42 pm

    Nasir..

    Who do you think will raise questions about Denmark’s decline in cricket if they lose to Afghanistan or Nepal given that there’s little following there and that they are NOT a part of the High Performance Program?..Yes, I agree that they would like to play the supposedly stronger teams like Canada and Bermuda and prove themselves but looking at it from the other side, do you think Bermuda or Canada would take such a risk, given that they are now a part of the ICC’s HPP till 2009?

    In comparison to other Associates NOT in the HPP like Namibia, UAE, Afghanistan and Denmark, Nepal is probably the only Associate that can actually make money from hosting fellow Associate teams..yet, Nepal doesn’t seem to be organizing/playing as much cricket as the other teams?

  18. July 12, 2006 at 7:17 pm

    Hi Nasir, Ram,

    A couple of points.
    Nasir, please differentiate between KCA and Cricket Kenya. KCA no longer exist, and are one reason CK are struggling to find sponsors. A lot of people were stung by the KCA, and the failure to differentiate between the two I believe to be one reason CK are having difficulty.

    Regards sponsors and opponents: Kenya would get plenty more sponsors playing either India or Pakistan simply because there are very large populations in Kenya descended from those two nations. Any matches even against A teams would be a guaranteed sell out. That said, Bangladesh would still get good crowds, so there should really be no problem.

    Regards the other issues – I am very unhappy that the Canada series gets to take second fiddle. I posted about this, and can only see it doing us harm in the long run.
    Getting sponsorship should be much easier than it is proving. It is very worrying and very irritating. I only hope it is sorted out soon.

  19. Ram
    July 12, 2006 at 10:16 pm

    Nick,

    Am really surprised that you say even a match against A teams of Test nations would sell-out..If that is the case, then I would say Kenyan cricket has got a better future than what is predicted because from the 2003 World Cup and 2000 Champions trophy games, I don’t remember too many people coming to watch the matches…maybe I am wrong!..Also, when WI toured Kenya (was it 2001?) and played some 3-day matches, the average crowds for each day was around 25, which clearly didn’t please all those who thought Kenya as the next Test nation then..

    Well..about the Canadian series, though that’s unfortunate, I feel it’s perfectly right for Cricket Kenya to give importance to this series because: 1) This series is against a stronger Test opposition and 2) This is a home series implying foregoing it would mean both financial and cricketing losses, which Cricket Kenya can’t afford at this moment even if it comes at the expense of antagonizing Canada/Bermuda..

  20. July 13, 2006 at 2:37 am

    Ram/Nick,

    Technically, they can still move the Canada tri series ahead by a month. You can still play cricket in Sept in Canada without any issues with weather, at least in Toronto. They can also move the triseries it up by 4 days, and play the intercontinental cup match later in the year.

    The thing is that the Canada team is all over the place, and they had probably taken time off from work to participate in the series. Now they cant do anything about that and hence the players will probably be off and will play someone in the same timeframe. The Dutch players complained about the same thing in March. One thing that the ICC needs to realize is that the Bangladeshis can play anytime, they can also make a return trip in September, if they dont qualify for the Champions trophy, or even October. They dont have any other series lined up. The associates cannot do that, so at least other associates need to respect that sacrifice.

    ICC said to the KNCB in march that they will somehow compensate the Dutch for the loss of the 3 ODIs. The compensation was ….. get this… games against Kenya A instead of Kenya. The Dutch thrashed them, and nearly thrashed the full Kenyan team 2 days later as well, so I dont know what kind of compensation it was playing Kenya A. I have a feeling that snail paced ICC is living in a time warp and will again compensate Canada and Bermuda by giving them Kenya A. Given that Kenya A was beaten badly by Denmark, and that Denmark was beaten badly by Bermuda, I dont know what kind of a kick they are going to get out of facing them.

    PS: Nick, I read your blog entry on this and thought that you wrote very well.

  21. Ram
    July 13, 2006 at 3:09 am

    Nasir..A couple of points..

    1. Denmark got thrashed by Bermuda is news to me…When did that happen?…I thought they were equally strong, given that Denmark recently thrashed Netherlands ‘A’.

    2. Of course Bangladesh can come later in Sept/Oct but will they agree to that given the additional travel costs to play a supposedly weaker opponent in a series that’s unlikely to give the Bangladesh board any substantial revenue?..Also, would they like to be played around like this?..the same argument given to Canada/Bermuda can be extended to Ban too..A reasonable replacement for Kenya, if things don’t work out, would be to send Zim A, since Zim are too strong for the 2 American Associates..

  22. July 13, 2006 at 3:48 am

    As far as I remember, Bermuda thrashed Denamrk by 100 runs in the ICC Trophy 2005. It would have given Denmark the chance to qualify over Bermuda for ODI status and the world cup.

  23. July 13, 2006 at 6:17 pm

    Hi Ram/Nasir,

    Regards the Bang tour scheduling etc, it seems things have been sorted out to everyone’s satisfaction. Apparently the high costs of Toronto CC was a major factor in this.

    Regards filling the grounds in Kenya, i didn’t say Test teams, I specifically mentioned India and Pakistan. Every game I have ever been to in Kenya involving either of these (even a couple of club sides) has been packed. Kenyan-Indians (or Indian-Kenyans?) come to support Kenya vs. Pakistan and vica versa. It is a long way from the ideal situation, but it does generate general interest, and the bottom line is bums on seats.
    I would say the upcoming series against Bangladesh will get a good crowd, but we shall see…

  24. July 14, 2006 at 12:23 am

    Nick,

    So the Bermuda – Kenya series in Nov is going to be a 5 match ODI series? they were originally supposed to play only 3 ODIs, I guess now these 2 games have been incorporated into that series as well?

    And the Kenya-Canada games in August are going to be full ODIs? Or only limited over games?

  25. Ram
    July 14, 2006 at 3:29 am

    Nick,

    Yes, read from your blog that Cricket Kenya has handled this issue well and I must appreciate you for the way you’ve written the article..As you rightly pointed out, it was a good move by Cricket Kenya to wait for TV coverage rather than just go ahead with the ODIs, just with the intention of trying to prove people that they meant business..In today’s world, it is imperative that cricket gets as much TV coverage as possible, a standing example of how the lack of it hampers the game’s visibility is European cricket…

    However I’ve one question: Why is it that the TV rights for the ODI series were worth only USD 86K given the huge market in Bangladesh?

    P.S. Nick, I would appreciate if you could enable comments on your blog rather than having to use the forum every time..

  26. July 14, 2006 at 10:07 am

    I agree that if the choice was between televising and not televising, it was perhaps a better idea to move it forward. I am glad to find out that hosting them and the ground sponsors were not the problem, but it was something that Kenya was getting involved in for the first time i.e. televising live matches.

  27. Tom Lewis
    August 1, 2006 at 11:50 am

    I would be interested to see whether Afghanistan will feature the two players who are currently playing at the MCC in the upcoming ACC trophy. Also one of the best nepali players Chaugai will soon be unavailable for Five years due to education in the USA which is disappointing.

  28. August 3, 2006 at 1:54 am

    I think there is little doubt that the 2 players, Hamid Hassan and Mohammed Nabi will feature in the Afghanistan team.

    Chugai loss is a bad one, but Nepal has enough talent for another youngster to fill in his boots.

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