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News: Greece disqualified from Euro Div II?

Fielding unqualified players?I just checked the cricketeurope website, and Hellas was left with 0 points. They were docked all their win points, because they were fielding players who were expats and not even deemed nationals !!!……

Well….. given the rate of cricket expansion, and the overall popping up of non deserving teams, I guess it only fits the bill that Hellas is now going to go into wilderness for another 4 years…. They are foolish…… they had a good enough mainstream team, and only their mainstream players have been stepping up to the challenge, so why screw it up completely??

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  1. Cuen Lucas
    August 8, 2006 at 10:47 am

    A really costly error,but like you said,with all the mainstream talent, something like this was a huge risk to take, and it backfired.

    One thing though, why now? Isn’t all this kind of thing supposed to happen at player registration?
    Unless the player in question was fielded before the ECC had a chance to
    verify his resedential status, it’s rather odd. And even then, surely the Hellenic authorities
    should have been aware of this when they selected the side?

    Either way, they have costed themselves big time, I would however like to see them back next time around because there clearly is a growing interest for cricket there.

  2. August 8, 2006 at 11:13 am

    Probably someone complained now….. ECC does not proactively check the player eligibility…… i would not be surprised if someone from Jersey or Guernsey complained…… well, they had the right to do so….. but I would like to know exactly who was unqualified to represent Greece and how….

  3. Ram
    August 8, 2006 at 1:13 pm

    Well……Can someone explain exactly why Greece got disqualified?…Is it that all their players were of Greek origin but were citizens of another country and hence were ineligible to represent Greece in this tournament?

    In any case, this is totally foolish given that Greece anyway had mainstream players to choose from, not to mention their passion for the game…And, as Cuen said, it’s really strange that such things were found out after the entire group stage was finished and not before the tournament started..

    With this act by the cricket authorities, life seems to have come a full cycle..A century ago, countries like USA, Canada, Argentina, which not only had good indigenous teams but also decent public interest, were shooed away from the game because the authorities then thought cricket was a Commonwealth sport and should remain so..If cricket then lost 3 great countries, will it lose one now?

    However, the ECC must realize that the larger objective of promoting the game shouldn’t be lost in the current turbulence…I hope Greek continue to get cricket and don’t face any bans/fines..This incident should be a lesson not only for the Greek authorities but also for the ECC and one hopes that Greek can come back in the Div III tournament next year with a COMPLETELY INDIGENOUS TEAM…

  4. August 8, 2006 at 1:40 pm

    Ram….. the issue is that of time lost…… yesterday we were talking about this Greek team being even better than Italy perhaps…… after today’s events, and todays washout of the Greece match, it looks like Greece will be relegated to Div III in 2007, will probably get promoted to Div II for 2009, will get promoted to Div I in 2011, and then perhaps qualify for WCQS Div III……

    For all practical purposes, we have probably seen the end of Greece in cricketing terms, for the forseeable future……….. especially since they do not host friendlies…….. ECC may also put a ban on them….. who knows….

    Regarding the players……. I think only 1 or maybe 2 players were not fitting the criteria…… Hellas cricket federation cannot be so stupid to try putting ALL their players who dont qualify…… I looked at their 2005 Euro affiliates squad, and the following 5 players are new, so the problem has to be with either all of them, or with one of them; Georgios Stogianos, Michail Toussis, Paul Maraziotis, George Panagiotou, Ali Adnan Hayder.  

    I do not think the comparison with USA/Canada/Argentina histories is correct here…….. Greece have not been shooed away by anyone…… they were fielding illegal players, who perhaps dont even reside in Greece…… and are not Greek citizens or Natioanals…… I think its their own fault, but one, unfortunately, that has killed cricket chances in that country……..

  5. Ram
    August 8, 2006 at 4:48 pm

    Nasir,

    About the time lost by Greece because of this problem, I’ve a doubt here…Yesterday, we were discussing how difficult it would be for Greece to defeat Jersey before hoping to win the Div II event, which means Greece were anyway expected to stay in Div II and take part in the next Euro Div II event in 2009, with the aim of qualifying to Div I in 2010 and then get into the WCL Div III tournament in 2011…So, can we say that Greece are back at where they started which means they may not have lost too much in terms of time, unless of course, they are faced with bans/fines, which I hope the ECC doesn’t impose for the benefit of the game..

    About the comparison with the American counterparts, I just wanted to say that the cricket authorities shouldn’t be foolish enough to make such harsh decisions that can impact the game in the country…If the ICC is really keen on expansion, all it should do now is warn the Hellas Cricket Federation of the violation and seek a detailed explanation, with possibly an eye on their future activities….Cutting development money or not giving games would be unfair to their passionate fans who cannot and should not suffer because of a foolish act of a few officials…

  6. August 8, 2006 at 5:21 pm

    Stogianos, Ali Adnan Haider were playing todays match as well……. Panagiotou did not bat nor bowl in the match that he played…… Tousis hasnt played all matches either……. Looks like the problem was with Maraziotis, who was single handledly leading the Greek cause with the bat most of the time…………..

    We were saying yesterday that we should let Greece first win the tournament before commenting……. the thing is that after Germany’s performance today, I think Greece would have beaten Jersey……. So they could theoratically have been in the Euro Div I in 2008, and WCQS Div III in 2009 if they were to beat Italy ……..

  7. dr gul khan
    August 9, 2006 at 5:13 am

    Maraziotis is australian..plays for new south wales and sydny grade

  8. Jerseyman
    August 10, 2006 at 6:22 am

    Both Jersey and Guernsey took big steps before the tournament to ensure all their players were eligible. Because of eligibility laws Jersey lost out on possibly their best player (Ryan Driver) from playing in the tournament.

    The onus was clearly on the countries’ boards to ensure all the players met the right standards.

  9. Alex Farias
    September 4, 2006 at 4:05 pm

    George Panagiotou is the best cricket player Greece ever have….

    I don’t know what you talking about!

  10. September 5, 2006 at 1:29 am

    Alex….. George Panagiotou cant be the best player Greece has ever produced if he doesnt bat nor bowl in a match in the tournament 🙂 ……..

    That said, it doesnt matter…… the problem was with Maraziotis…… disqualification was also because of him………..

  11. Alex Farias
    September 5, 2006 at 11:10 am

    I saw George Panagiotou play in the friendly match against Italy in Scotland two days before the ECC Div II tournament started.

    He is a right arm fast paced bowler that can swing the ball a mile and is good with the bat.

    I don’t understand why he wasn’t used, maybe he was going to be used in the semi-final and was being rested in the group stage?

  12. September 5, 2006 at 11:49 am

    Alex….. where are you based? Are you based in Greece? Give us a little update on what cricket is like over there……. there seems to be a lot of confusion about whether Cricket is followed in Greece or not, and exactly how cricket mad Corfu is……

  13. Alex Farias
    September 5, 2006 at 12:09 pm

    Due to my profession, I travel all over the world and often to Europe.
    With regards to cricket in Greece it is taken very serious in Corfu and the whole island is criket mad. They have a domestic league set up and seems to be very organised with extremely talented players. I saw George Stogiannos and George Panagiotou play in 2002 for a local club “Kerkyra” at the main ground at the marina. I was impressed with the standard. George Stogiannos is great with the bat and in the field. George Panagiotou is an all rounder and stood out in the game I saw.
    From what I understand though, cricket is not that popular in the rest of Greece however there are teams in Athens. I know the Hellenic Fedartion are trying there best to promote the game but more cricket grounds must be built in the rest of Greece for this to occur.

  14. September 5, 2006 at 2:12 pm

    I think the ICC is missing a trick here……. Greece, with 10 million people, has an island where the game is played and they are quite seriously interested in the game…….. Generally you may not pay that much attention to just one island, but the Island is 100K in population, much more than Bermuda, and more than twice that of Cayman Islands……. The point is that the ICC has a great oppurtunity to get their foot in the door in Greece…..

  15. Ram
    September 5, 2006 at 3:14 pm

    I think if the people of Corfu are really mad, the game must be regularly getting media coverage there and maybe more than the occasional report on the mainland newspapers/TV/radio…One way to spread out the game to the mainland is to make Hellas regularly host matches against fellow European nations in Corfu…..From what I can make out, attracting people to such games shouldn’t be an issue…maybe if a few thousand turn up, it’ll not only attract media attention (thereby generating a cricket-following public) on the mainland but also corporate support in turn…And, once companies start coming in in a big fashion realizing the potential in the game, it should just be a matter of time (ASSUMING the national board is willing)…

    The BIGGEST asset the 3 countries: Afghanistan, Nepal and Hellas (Corfu) have is fanatic public support, something no other Associate possesses….That means even if they’re of lower standard now, it’s worth backing them…It would only be a shame if the ICC ignores these countries and instead complains about the lack of public following in UAE or Canada…

  16. September 5, 2006 at 4:25 pm

    I think Maldives and Uganda also have a lot of following in cricket…….. so do Jersey, Geurnsey, Isle of Man and even Caymans………… except for Uganda they are all tiny countries…………

    btw…… cricket in Pakistan was not played in the villages till 1992 WC…… the national team was all from Karachi and Lahore….. with only few exceptions…………… The ink blot approach is a good one for the development for any sport in a country, and in my opinion, if the ICC already has a 100K population that is interested in the game, the ink blot approach in that country starting off from that population is a risk worth taking…….

  17. asif
    May 21, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    Guyz,
    U’re all missing out on a very imp issue…that is ICC is all ’bout lobbying. See B’desh got test status due to a strong lobby grp back in 2001 when the team was no where near where the present squad is. EVen now we go abroad and incur embarrassing defeats.

    ICC must have a clear goal regarding which countries it should promote.

    ANd then they stripped the associates off it’s places for the 2011 WC. It doesn’t augur well either for greece or anyone.

    ICC must act swiftly ….

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