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Opinion: Afghanistan in the wrong league?

As the ACC Trophy has progressed….. it has looked more and more that Afghanistan is playing the wrong league….. today, in the semi final of the tournament, they have Hong Kong at 129/8, and I would be surprised if they dont chase it down for the loss of 3-4 wickets or less in 25 overs……..

It looks like a UAE v Afghanistan final is imminent…… if Afghanistan repeat their performances against other expat based countries, they will probably knock over UAE, and then a very interesting World League will be in the offing.

Nepal I feel bad for, but they should not have done what they did today….. infact, Bahrain ran them pretty close as well…… they HAVE the talent, like the U19 WC showed….. their same players can perform much better than this, but its a matter of getting more and more tours organized for them against superior opposition….. India, Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh Academies, A teams or domestic teams are always available and Nepal can organize tours with them to improve their standard further…..

If Afghanistan loses to UAE however, then Nepal will have another point of contention, about the format of the trophy by itself……

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  1. August 24, 2006 at 12:53 am

    well well….. 70/4 chasing 157…… funny if Afghanistan manages to lose this one…… it would not only prove my posting about their standard wrong, give more reason to Nepal to be pissed….. but it will take HONG KONG to WCQS Div 3….. what more can the cricket world ask for !!!

  2. Noire
    August 24, 2006 at 1:16 am

    Just woken up to find my team lose…now that is so lame..Well we have footie against pakistan in the evening to look farward to..semis of SAF games..against Pakistan..atleast somwhere we are in the same footing!! LOL

    It was always a task to beat UAE, they are more experienced n play more than us..nvm.

  3. Noire
    August 24, 2006 at 1:17 am

    82-6 in 20 eh!! Talk abt irony, Mr NAsir. I guess every dog has its BAD day!! lol. And funnily its sameday for Nepal and AFG.

  4. August 24, 2006 at 1:19 am

    82/6 after 20 overs…… looks like Pakistan F….. sorry HONG KONG is about to make it to WCQS Div III

  5. August 24, 2006 at 1:21 am

    Noire…. dont keep hopes too high….. Pakistan is not that bad in soccer this time around…….

  6. Ram
    August 24, 2006 at 1:31 am

    hmmm……Can’t believe that Afghanistan can put up such a performance today against Hong Kong!….So, it’s not Nepal, not Afghanistan, not Malaysia but….HONG KONG….It seems the qualification to WC 2011 might endup becoming a farce given the kind of qualification systems in place…But more importantly, this means that only ONE out of Nepal/Afghanistan can now hope to qualify for WC 2011 which is a pity!

    I was about to say exactly the same as what you said….I thought Afghanistan aren’t gaining anything by playing against these teams…I thought they must look to play Ban or Zim A teams to begin with and maybe even try to get a few games against the European Associates but….it seems Afghanistan still aren’t better than this league…

  7. August 24, 2006 at 1:34 am

    well….. they actually are……. today is just their off day, which, unfortunately has come in the semi final of the tournament in a must win match……

  8. Noire
    August 24, 2006 at 2:02 am

    oh yeah…wut a day to take a day off!! Gd for them…Nepal hda a day off too..lmao

  9. rego
    August 24, 2006 at 2:11 am

    Interesting discussion on Afghanistan..I agree with Nasir is saying that they are probably above this level. They have proved that consistently in this tournament. Then again every team has their off day, and none of us know how the pitch is playing, what the overhead conditions are etc.

    With a little luck, and favorable conditions teams like Hong Kong, Singapore, and Kuwait can challenge Nepal Afghanistan and UAE, with their influx of first class cricketers. I’d be interested to see if Hong Kong opened the bowling with a spinner. Its something they’ve been known to do, and good quality spin bowling is Afghanistan’s only apparent weakness. I have a nagging feeling that Najeeb Amar, Illyas Gul, or Nadeem Ahmed opened the bowling for Hong Kong. That said, the game is far from over afghanistan have 4 wickets in hand and as we know in cricket, anything can happen!!!

    Hong Kong going to the WCL 3 is bit of failure on the part of ACC’s development program. This is a completely expat team and as far as I’m concerned there are no chinese playing cricket above the U-13 level in Hong Kong, which is quite pathetic.

    Personally though, I don’t like the Afghan coach’s attitude. If you spoke to him and read what he says to the press, you would agree. (dunno why i’m putting this here). doesn’t hurt all that much. haha

  10. fred
    August 24, 2006 at 2:59 am

    what was the final result HK v Afghan? (computer went funny on me at the 7 wkt mark!)

  11. Ram
    August 24, 2006 at 3:01 am

    Nasir…yes they are a better team if a league format were in place but I thought irrespective of the qualfication system, Afghanistan were still good enough to THRASH everyone on their way (except Nepal/UAE) but now they seem to have lost out on the WCL Div III spot thanks to some reckless batting against a team like Hong Kong…

    Rego..I can actually understand the Afghan coach’s feelings…By talking loud, he wants to put Afghan cricket on the World map and force other countries to take note of them by inviting them for a few games….I still remember his interview in the ACC website last year when he said Afghanistan were good enough to beat Ban/Zim and maybe even SL! Coming from a country that has hit the headlines for all the wrong reasons, I think he wants to convey something positive and good about his country through cricket, which is fine…

  12. August 24, 2006 at 3:06 am

    Yup….. he is just talking big…… but everyone cannot be Mohammed Ali the boxer…… Afghanistan did back up all the talk starting after the MCC match till this one game against Hong Kong……….

  13. rego
    August 24, 2006 at 3:36 am

    wait the ACC site won’t load. So has Afghanistan lost to HK?

    Ram..nth wrong with talking positive about your country, but there’s a limit! I just don’t like it especially when your talking about beating test teams and are having trouble beating HOng Kong China

  14. Noire
    August 24, 2006 at 4:58 am

    Lol..I knoa Pakistan is a strong team in footie at our level…we are strong too! It will b sth to smile abt on the same day we lost in ACC semis! I tell u, If Nepal had a boost n a league system like our football, I wudnt b suprised if Nepal made it big in Cricket…tho I must admist the football system has begun changing for last two years..and its been radical..How I wish there was a person like Ganesh Thapa, the ANFA presedent (Nepal football body) running CAN..

    Nways wuts the latest with AFG? ANyone!

  15. Qaseer khan
    August 24, 2006 at 5:29 am

    heloooooooooooooooooooo everybody i want what happen afg vs hkkg
    match

  16. Bruce Gaskell
    August 24, 2006 at 1:50 pm

    Well, a pretty rubbish day for those of us on here who want to see Cricket spread beyond the “Big 8” (or Big 10 if your generous).

    Ironic that many of us on here are concerned by expat dominated teams, well today 2 of the most expat dominated nations on the planet, cricket or otherwise, won their matches.
    Given the batting display by the two teams can we complain however, Maybe Nepal and Afghanistan were overconfident?

    Ram, you say one of Nepal/Afghanistan can still qualify for 2011. Excuse my ignorance but how does this work? Does the winner of the 3rd place play-off get into the main ICC qualifier or something?

  17. August 24, 2006 at 2:46 pm

    Bruce….. highest ranked team from ACC Trophy 2008 (after those already in Div II and III) will get a spot in WCQS Div III in 2009…… if they end up getting amongst the top 2 there, then they will get qualification for ICC Trophy 2009…… if they get into the top 6 there, they will get into WC 2011……..

    So its a long long way off…….

  18. Sayed Shah Aminzai
    August 29, 2006 at 2:27 am

    Dear All,
    Please, don’t be disapointed. I don’t think anyone would be as shocked as me. It has been more than a week, since Afghanistan have lost to Hong Kong in the semi finals, but still I can’t believe our luck! My message to all boys would be to get re-united and forget about our that worst day in the short history of the game in Afghanistan and put thier hundred pecent attention to the fourth coming matches. I am sure, a day will come that the world will accept the might of our National Team and without waiting for such league tournaments, they may grant speacial inclusion in Big Tournaments like WC 2011. All the team should feel proud for thier sucesses they gaind in the past months, and they should know that world Champions like Australia and Pakistan have also lost to the number of times weaker team than Afghanistan like Bangladish!

  19. Ahmad
    August 30, 2006 at 7:52 pm

    hello everybody!
    i got a question Nasir M Khan,
    my question is that now as you can see in http://www.acctrophy2006.com/index.htm and click on Asia’s way to 2011 world cup, there you will find out that UAE is both in finalist of ACC trphy 2006 and also in WCL DIVISION II. so now its not clear that will UAE have two chances to qualify for 2011 world cup ???

    thanks

  20. August 30, 2006 at 11:30 pm

    Ahmed….. UAE is only in Div II……. it will get a number of chances to qualify……. first through Div II, then through Div III……. but I think it will need only 1 in Div II…… should be much stronger than the other Div II teams……. and Bermuda as well 🙂

  21. zahid ali
    September 1, 2006 at 7:05 am

    Dear all as you beter know afghanistan qualigy for the devsion 5 and you will se them in icc trophy 2009 in dubai
    as they lost to hong kong in the semi final of acc trophy at fact afghanistan won the game there captain cheated and weaistaing the time as afghanistan was ony 6 runs short of D_L law of rain they out calss them in all departments as you taliking about afghanistan coach big talking i think he is right . becouse he have a team like strom will balanced side afghanistan cricket federtaion worked on them for 5 years and now they are so strong team VS hong kong just bad day for them other wise UAE got sataisfation when afghanistan lost they were scaring from afghanistan fast bowling as i am going to interduce a few stras afghan plyers like karim sadiq afghani sewag , nowroz mangal , Mohammad nabi , hasti gul abid , hamid hassan , dawlat ahamdzi , these plyers can win from every body in the world

  22. Raees Ahmadzai
    February 3, 2007 at 9:27 am

    i risgend from captaincy of the Afghan team.in onder my captaincy Afghan team win 15 matche,s in totel of 18.but i lost two time very importenet matche,s one in finel in midlle east cup in one is sami finel in Acc TROPHY.and i am sure that our new captain done well in good matche,s.and inshallah we want pass for world cup 2011.in my maind Afghan team is world number 15 team in 87 country.in number 6 in Asia.

  23. February 3, 2007 at 9:31 am

    dear Nasir m.khan make the best team from assoiate member of ACC.and i am hope you done very well for cricket.

  24. February 3, 2007 at 9:40 am

    dear all salm.
    the day sami finel is dark day for afghan team.and one more thing we win all matche,s very easly like win by 9 wiket,s win by 10 wiket,s win by 66 run,s win by anothe 9 wiket,s the problem was for middle order batsmen they bat in 4 matche,s………………..hammmmm whene i am seen the hong kong match in dream opppppppppppppppppps.becouse we come only for wining the trophy.

  25. dr gul khan
    July 12, 2007 at 4:17 am

    m.Nabi is playing for MCC against srilanka

  26. Dr Sayed Jan Q.Z
    August 28, 2007 at 6:21 am

    Dear Nasir .

    we r very happy for seeing Afghanistatn U 19 teame in the final and i will say abut Mr Raees Ahmadzay,s coments that he says to make a team so he is just joking on i know him he knows me as well so sir it better to built this website to be the best from the others.

    thanks

  27. Najeebullah
    May 17, 2008 at 3:32 am

    Hello to all
    i really like to see Afghanistan team in the world cup.

  28. gerrad Azam
    June 10, 2008 at 9:21 am

    dear all salm.
    the day sami finel is dark day for afghan team.and one more thing we win all matche,s very easly like win by 9 wiket,s win by 10 wiket,s win by 66 run,s win by anothe 9 wiket,s the problem was for middle order batsmen they bat in 4 matche,s…hammmmm whene i am seen the hong kong match in dream oppp.becouse we come only for wining the trophy.

  29. gerrad Azam
    July 25, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    as they lost to hong kong in the semi final of acc trophy at fact afghanistan won the game there captain cheated and weaistaing the time as afghanistan was ony 6 runs short of D_L law of rain they out calss them in all departments as you taliking about afghanistan coach big talking i think he is right . becouse he have a team like strom will balanced side afghanistan cricket federtaion worked on them for 5 ye

  30. Art
    October 9, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    After a year of trying the Australian government has just approved a one off airlift of cricket equipemt to Afghanistan for the start of the season next year.

    This personal campaign has been well supported by a local Federal parliamentarian.

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