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News: “Uganda can play ODIs”

This is a weird piece of news, primarily for 2 reasons. Firstly, Africa Cricket Association is trying for 3 more ODI status teams in the next 6 months? Thats very ambitious, and totally out of the blue. The second reason is the lesson learn from the case of Bermuda. There is little point in pushing a country up the ladder that is not really ready. They dont swim in the deep waters if they dont know how to swim in the first place. Bermuda beat Uganda by 100 runs in 2005 ICC Trophy, and currently, Bermuda is in Div 1, while Uganda has not even confirmed their place in ICC Trophy for 2009. So this is quite premature. Maybe the ACC was giving a popular statement, but this is very specific to be one. He could have gotten away by just saying that Uganda are on the right track or something like that.

What they need to do in Africa is to have a tours programme between Uganda/Kenya/Namibia, and then between the winner of those and Zim/SA. Interestingly, Kenya hasnt had much out against Zim since their tour 2 years ago, and they havent had anything against SA……. I am sure 1 ODI series of 3 games is not that difficult to achieve with Kenya hosting, especially now that Nimbus has the rights for those games. Ken/SA can achieve some following amongst the 1.5 billion viewers of cricket if it is free on TV.

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  1. Tom Lewis
    October 3, 2007 at 8:11 am

    I would be very surprised if 3 more nations were playing ODIs in the next six months. However i reckon that the current Bermuda vs Uganda game would be a close affair. In terms of Africa i expect Namibia to easily win the WCL Division 2 tournament, due to their experience in the South Africa domestic system.

  2. Rich B
    October 3, 2007 at 10:09 am

    It’s a good PR statement, but ICC have already said that there’s no plan to increase the number of ODI nations, according to cricinfo. You’re right, Nasir, the ICC shouldn’t increase the number until at least all the top 6 are fairly competitive (although I think Bermuda were at least as good this year at the West Indies as others have been at previous world cups).

    At the end of the day, ODI status is not of absolute importance, especially if Namibia and Uganda are regularly playing international fixtures. Looking at their fixture list (on their website) they seem to be almost as busy as the test nations over the next few months. What’s particularly interesting is that Zimbabwe look to be playing in the same SA domestic comp as them, meaning they’ll be playing against each other.

    Africa definitely needs more competitions though – at the very least a WCL Division 1 with Kenya, Namibia, Uganda and the winner of division 2, plus possibly Zimbabwe. I guess money is the biggest issue, but the ICC should invest more.

    What I’d like to see is a really competitive World Cup qualifier in 2009, where the current ODI nations will really have to be on their toes to keep their status. A quality competition will get good media coverage and also make a good argument for the ICC to add a couple of extra nations to the World Cup in 2015. Best World Cup format for me would be 3 groups of 6, with the top 2 progressing to a super 6’s.

  3. farhan
    October 3, 2007 at 11:03 am

    Actully I will take the side of ICC in case of UGANDA, there are many reasons to support the cricket in UGANDA. first of all Ugnada cricket team consists of all indigenous players. second they surely have talent and passion for cricket. I think team like Uganda needs the support of ICC to lift themselves. Cricket needs nations like UGANDA, Where new nation is joining(not expats)cricket. Well best of luck for Uganda cricket.

  4. October 4, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    I see he now wants Kenya to attain Test status within 4 years.
    All rhetoric I think – it is neither realistic nor will it help the game grow at this stage.
    Far more important is to consolidate the position in the top 6 Associate nations before the next World Cup.
    10 years may be realistic for Kenyan Test status IF everything goes as well as it should and there is no indication this will happen or even if the National league will get off the ground.

    As to ODI status for the others, I think that is something that should be treated with the same caution. It should not be all about ‘status’ but how much cricket they get to play and how much the standards can be improved. Once a team is good enough, then it is time to worry about ‘status’.

  5. farhan
    October 5, 2007 at 11:34 pm

    welL bad luck for kenya to be honest, they had some good players in the past, i dont see these players be enough skillfull for kenya to enter into test matches. unless they get some good young players, i dont see them having test status even after 50 years.on UGANDA note ICC has denied that they are going to expand ODI nations. sad news, i consider UGANDA as more deserveing nation than Canada who has all expats players.

  6. October 6, 2007 at 2:27 am

    ICC has said that there are no plans to increase the number of ODI teams…. we also knew that there were no plans by the ICC as such. The question is then why was ACA so out of synch with ICC on policies? ACA seems to be theorizing in the air…..

    farhan….. we have been discussing this expat v mainstream player issue all over the blog….. so I dont want to get into that right now……

    On this issue of status…. I agree with what Nick is saying….. and the best way to ensure being in top flight associate cricket, despite its quirks like Bermuda, is the ICC Trophy and the standing that you get from there…. the issue is that some countries at time show that they have gotten as far as they can with amateur status, even in top flight associate cricket, and the ICC does not fund them enough to take the next step…….

  7. farhan
    October 15, 2007 at 11:44 am

    well nasir eid mubarik
    there is also a good news from kenya as they really performed well against Canada.They seems to ahve forgotten t20 wc SHOCKERS.I think this heavy victory will raise thier confidence a greta deal.best of luck for them.
    my last question is about Uganda taking on Bermuda and Canada, what are team news for uganda on it?

  8. October 15, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    If Uganda can qualify all the way and earn ODI status it will definitely be a plus as the history of the game there is very closesly tied to Kenya and East Africa as a whole. Its a pity though tht while Uganda for example have a clear path based on the competitiveness of their national team ,which is undoubtedly tied to the level of development of the game in the country, to ODI status, Test status remains almost a ‘holy grail’ whose attainment strictly speaking lies with the goodwill of already existing test teams. I think the world of cricket would benefit if ‘Test’ status was at the very least redefined so that the situation now where the very running of the ICC which is supposed to be global can be decentralised fr0om a small clique of boards with test status

  9. October 16, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    I thought they were only playing Bermuda in 2 games…… didnt know they were also playing Canada……

  10. October 16, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    andy…… one way of doing this would be to incorporate the 6 ODI associates into the future tours programme…… they can have tours, just like the rest of the big boys…… on the tour, they can play a couple of 3 day games against the A team, while playing 3 ODIs against Full member teams 🙂 They can have 2 tours every year…….. 1 against either Bang or Zim, and 1 against one of the big 8.

    But currently the leading associates cannot fund a week long trip…… how can one expect them to fund a month long tour !!!!!!

  11. farhan
    October 16, 2007 at 10:27 pm

    WELL agreed with you people , I still think same I too think winner of IC cup can be given temporary test status for about 2 years, during those 2 years they can be allowed to play test matches against lowest test ranked teams like ZIM and Bang.Lets allow them to play 4 test matches against these 2 teams in 2 years. that can add into crediabality of IC cup and also can increase the standard of these associates nations. Other point is to introduce relagation system too in IC cup, where 2 least position teams will be relegated and you pick 2 upcoming teams.

  12. farhan
    October 19, 2007 at 1:13 pm

    Nasir KENYA defeated Canada in 1st ODI due to superab performance by odoyo. why your blog is not having lot of activities these days.

  13. Roland Ilube
    October 24, 2007 at 5:45 am

    And now Uganda have beaten Bermuda. Great performance from them, although perhaps it says more about Bermuda than about Uganda. Still, good to see Olwenyi and “the musician” Kamyuka doing the business again – both fine players. To echo Farhan’s question, what’s up Nasir? Are you on a sabbatical or something?

  14. October 25, 2007 at 1:16 am

    Africa definitely needs more competitions though – at the very least a WCL Division 1 with Kenya, Namibia, Uganda and the winner of division 2, plus possibly Zimbabwe. I guess money is the biggest issue, but the ICC should invest more.

  15. October 27, 2007 at 2:16 am

    it has been very busy 3 weeks at work…… hardly had time for anything else 🙂

  16. farhan
    October 27, 2007 at 5:39 am

    shashi agree with you, why can’t there be series among top african associates, africa has great chance to develop this game at moment, why ACA is not doing anyhting to help these nations.I think there should be a top associate tournament before wc qualifier.

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